{"id":4687,"date":"2025-05-31T14:15:37","date_gmt":"2025-05-31T12:15:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.kamprad.net\/?p=4687"},"modified":"2025-05-31T14:15:58","modified_gmt":"2025-05-31T12:15:58","slug":"limitarianism-limitarismus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.kamprad.net\/index.php\/2025\/05\/31\/limitarianism-limitarismus\/","title":{"rendered":"#Limitarianism\/Limitarismus"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Why wealth needs limits? \/ Warum Reichtum Grenzen braucht?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n

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Limitarianism<\/strong> refers to several different types of ethical theories. Though limitarianism applies differently to varied fields of study, what is always common is an examination of when it is proper, moral or ethical to interfere and intervene in the lives and freedoms of individuals, in order to benefit society as a whole. It sometimes presents as a principle of distributive justice in economic theories (economic limitarianism<\/em>). Unlike encompassing systems of political and economic intervention, which seek to make dramatic changes to the social order, limitarianism deals with specific instances and subjects, for which the necessity and justification of intervention may be examined. As its name implies, limitarianism asks the question of how setting certain limits for human beings can lead to positive outcomes.<\/p>Wikipedia<\/a><\/cite><\/blockquote><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Wer will, dass niemand in Armut lebt und zu viel Ungleichheit f\u00fcr schlecht h\u00e4lt, muss f\u00fcr eine Obergrenze f\u00fcr Verm\u00f6gen sein. Ein altes Konzept von Aristoteles und Platon neu denkt: der Limitarismus<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ingrid Robeyns: <\/strong>Ein revolution\u00e4res Konzept zur Begrenzung exzessiven Reichtums, das eine gerechtere Welt f\u00fcr alle schaffen w\u00fcrde.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Wohlstand? Was ist das eigentlich?<\/strong>
Es ist ja eben nicht das, was ein \u201eArbeiter\u201c sich erarbeitet \u2013 sein kleines Haus und sein Auto. Das ist kein Wohlstand, das sind Abh\u00e4ngigkeiten von Lohnarbeit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Dieser Arbeiter hortet keine riesigen Mengen Geld, sondern er gibt sein Geld aus: f\u00fcr den Grundbedarf, sein Haus, den Garten, sein Auto.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Die Vielzahl der Arbeiter, Angestellten, Lohnabh\u00e4ngigen \u2013 wie auch immer man sie nennen will \u2013 sie f\u00fcttern den Kreislauf des Geldes. Aber was tun Reiche? Die, die so viel Einkommen haben, dass sie es gar nicht ausgeben k\u00f6nnen? Deren Geld verschwindet aus dem Kreislauf \u2013 nicht vollst\u00e4ndig, klar, aber ein immer gr\u00f6\u00dfer werdender Teil davon wird einfach in Besitz gebunden, der dann nicht mehr in den Kreislauf zur\u00fcckkehrt. Utopische Mengen an Besitz \u2013 Menschen, die 100.000-mal mehr Verm\u00f6gen haben, als sie in einem Leben ausgeben k\u00f6nnten.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Oft ist es zudem so, dass der Gewinn, den Reiche erwirtschaften, nicht durch ihre eigene Arbeit entsteht, sondern zum gro\u00dfen Teil durch die Arbeit (k\u00f6rperlich) anderer. Da kann man jetzt sagen: \u201eOkay, der hat eben jemanden angestellt und mit ihm einen Lohn ausgehandelt. Wenn er so schlau ist, mit deiner Arbeit ein Vielfaches mehr zu verdienen, als er dir bezahlt, ist das Wirtschaft.\u201c \u2013 Nur eben nicht ganz. Denn der Angestellte ist durch diese Arbeit nicht wohlhabend, sondern lohnabh\u00e4ngig.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u00dcbergewinne und Reichtum jenseits des menschlichen Vorstellungsverm\u00f6gens f\u00fchren zu einer Tatsache:<\/strong>
Diese Geldmengen kommen beim Gro\u00dfteil der Menschen nicht mehr an \u2013 in keiner Weise. Nicht als Lohn, nicht als Park oder Stra\u00dfenbahn, nicht als Schule und auch nicht als Altersheim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Also: Wenn wir das System \u201eGeld\u201c nicht \u00e4ndern wollen oder k\u00f6nnen, m\u00fcssen wir anfangen, Reiche zur Verantwortung zu ziehen. Der Schutz muss weg. Ich meine \u2013 guck mal, die sprechen schon davon: \u201eWir m\u00fcssen kriegst\u00fcchtig werden.\u201c Wer von uns will das? Krieg als letzte L\u00f6sung, um die Reichen weiter zu sch\u00fctzen? Die k\u00f6nnen sich ja sch\u00fctzen \u2013 aber wollen die wirklich in so einer Welt leben?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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If you want no one to live in poverty and think too much inequality is bad, you have to be in favor of an upper limit on wealth. Rethinking an old concept of Aristotle and Plato: limitarism<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ingrid Robeyns:<\/strong> A revolutionary concept to limit excessive wealth that would create a fairer world for all.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Prosperity? What even is that?<\/strong>
It\u2019s certainly not what a “worker” earns \u2014 a small house and a car. That\u2019s not prosperity; those are dependencies on wage labor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This worker doesn\u2019t hoard vast amounts of money. He spends it \u2014 on basic needs, his house, the garden, the car.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The vast number of workers, employees, wage-dependent people \u2014 whatever you want to call them \u2014 they feed the cycle of money. But what about the rich? Those who have so much income that they can\u2019t even spend it all? Their money disappears from the economic cycle \u2014 not entirely, of course, but an ever-growing portion of it gets tied up in assets that no longer circulate. Absurd amounts of property \u2014 people who have 100,000 times more wealth than they could ever spend in a lifetime.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

And often, the profits the rich earn don\u2019t come from their own labor but largely from the (physical) labor of others. Now, one could say: \u201cWell, they hired someone and negotiated a wage. If they\u2019re smart enough to make a multiple of what they pay from your work, that\u2019s business.\u201d
But that\u2019s not the whole story. Because the employee doesn\u2019t become wealthy through that work \u2014 they remain wage-dependent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Excessive profits and unimaginable wealth lead to one simple truth:<\/strong>
These vast sums of money no longer reach the majority of people \u2014 in any form. Not as wages, not as parks or public transit, not as schools, and not as nursing homes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

So if we don\u2019t want to \u2014 or can\u2019t \u2014 change the system of money itself, then we must start holding the rich accountable. The protections must go.
I mean, look: they\u2019re already talking about how \u201cwe need to become ready for war.\u201d
Who among us wants that? War as a last resort to keep protecting the rich? Sure, they can protect themselves \u2014 but do they really want to live in a world like that?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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